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Second of the big 6 tournaments this year in Selling poker club, 45 $ buyin, NLH 8-max, 1500 $ GTD. I ran really good, but ran into a wall with pocket KK vs A7 and lost.
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J10 hand.. 4 ways going to the turn with top 2 and you didn't raise?? Other than that you played well
1:31 240bb effective stacks i presume.
Preflop: JdTs. Fine.
Flop: JsTc2s. Monster flop. The only hand we fear is 22, but its still very unlikely compared to all the hands we dominate.
UTG who raised preflop continues for half pot (450) into a 6 way pot on a board that pretty never misses everyone, which strongly suggest he has a very solid range of hands.
It could be a AsXs/XsXs hands, KxQx, maybe Q9s or 98s and some AK/AQ hands trying to get a "cheap turn with outs".
But most of his range should be value hands/overpairs (AA,KK,QQ) or JxXx hands etc., but less likely than normal since we block with Jd.
Now we want to charge ALL of these hands since they will probably not (except the gutshots) fold to a single reraise.
And there is quite a few cards we don't like to see on the turn. If we end up going multiway its obviously worse.
Think about the 47 possible turns to come: Aces, Kings, Queens, Nines, Eights and Sevens thats 24 = over half the turns that complete a possible straight.
Add in the remaning 4 spades (3s-6s) and you have 28 scare cards for us = 60% of turns we are not happy with.
And theres even an argument for adding the remaing 3 deuces because the would make overpais counterfeit the JT for 2 bigger pairs which bringsd us to (31 cards) almost 66% of turns we are not happy with.
Now here's a key point many often underestimate: If cards are scare cards to you? Well, then they are probably a scare card to opponenents as well.
This means that the hands we want to get value from might not want to put more money in on the turn, if a scare card comes. All in all – we MUST raise the flopbet from the betting leader.
With our call we invite in cutoff and smallblind which means we have to fade the outs of 3 opponents on the turn.
Turn: Qd. Now this is not the worst card for us, but still QQ, QJ-QT, AK and 98 now all beat us, which all are in our opponents combined ranges because we didnt raise the flop.
So, as mentioned above the Qd hits utgs range pretty well.
We are still ahead of many of them (AA, KK, KQ, QsXs, KsXs) and all of these hands will probabaly still call a reraise. See flop arguments 🙂
The seizing depends on how much you think utg will call – if he will call 2200 why wont he call 2800 you must ask yourself? The more you can get him to call the bigger his mistake.
Now, cutoff overcalls you reraise, which is fine but it would often be better to charge more, get CO to fold and get to play the river 2 way in position so we can make a value bet.
River: 6c. Now if we go back through all the analysis we had on this hand, it should be obvious that 6c is a huge blank, which means if we were good on the turn, we are good on the river.
6c changes nothing, so yes, you should shove the river, but it actually hurts our changes of a succesfull value bet on the river because CO is still in the pot – we look stronger shoving into to opponents than just against utg. If we had raised bigger on the turn (or flop) we might have been heads up on the river against an overpair, who just might have had to call of a bet more when the 6c hit.
Quick thoughts about the good and honest little vlog.
The J10 hand. Your right its a lovlely flob, but with that many players you always want to reraise on the flob. Way to many hands gets a good price to call and make a great hand, i just read your other comments and made a point of that aswell so wont go more into that.
This might be a Thing about context and how the other plays but the 67 hand.
The river to me if you put him on a draw, he will never call there, but if he have a little something, you want him to Pay you off, so if it was me i would downsize the bet to get payed off, especially when you showed the hand anyway, you might as well get extra chips.
Same Thing later on with A6d
You asked and No, i wouldnt isolate with that hand there. But what i would do different is the river bet. Again might be a context Thing, but hebis very unlikely to call that raise when it went check to river. Yea it could look like a bluff, but Even then he needs something to be able to beat a bluff, for me with that strong a hand i would Again aim for value. I dont remember the numbers so i cant suggest a bet, but I think you know what i'm getting at 🙂 keep it up