10 thoughts on “Craps System: 444 Follow Up”

1. even though I don't really like this method of betting, I think you have misunderstood he's method, because you are accounting 7 on a come out roll, what he's saying is point 7 point7 point7 point7 in order to lose, but you have four 7 back to back on come out roll. I think you need to redo this. thanx

2. I have personally witnessed 3 times point seven out, but never 4 times. even if this method works, it's every uncomfortable way of playing this game. Thank you

3. Each roll is INDEPENDENT of the previous roll. There is no advantage or disadvantage for skipping SHOOTERS or waiting until a point is made.

4. Your spreadsheet is not really a true representation of the 444 model. You don’t lose if 4 x 7s are rolled in a row. The 444 system loses if the pattern of point role followed by a 7 happens 4 times in a row. The spreadsheet does not depict this pattern at all. Unless you depict that pattern your spreadsheet does not validate The system 444. The probabilities of rolling the pattern are lower.

5. The issue with the Excel spreadsheet is the double-seven rolls or sometimes triple-seven rolls. The true 444 specifically states to wait for a point to be established. Those second or third sevens in a row would not be a loss, because the place bets are off until the point is established.

   Probability of hitting 4/5/6/8/9/10 is 24/36 or 2/3.

   Probability of hitting 7 is 6/36 or 1/6.

   In order to point, seven-out, point, seven-out, point, seven-out, point, seven-out, that's
   2/3 multiplied by 1/6 multiplied by 2/3 multiplied by 1/6 multiplied by 2/3 multiplied by 1/6 multiplied by 2/3 multiplied by 1/6. This equals 16/104976 or 1/6561. This means the probability of establishing a point and then sevening-out for times in a row is one in six thousand five hundred sixty one rolls. This is possible, but the probability is in the favor of the shorter that it doesn't happen.

6. Looks to me it looks like it works for at least a $1000. Then go home and come back the next day do it all over again.

7. Has anyone tried this method in a real casino?

8. I've created a Discord server to come chat about sports betting. Come hangout and shoot the breeze. https://discord.gg/rFC3vEa

9. Really great video Arch.
   I'm not so quick with excel. Would you be willing to do another or point me in the proper direction, that'll include these small changes.

   At lvl 2, 3, & 4 – we buy the 4 and 10. (The payout is slightly better)
   And at level 1, to incorporate the collect and press method. (Collect on first hit of any number, and full press 2nd hit of same number.)

   My theory, is that if your lvl 2-4 bet is covering the previous levels total loss, you buy the 4/10, and you collect and press at lvl 1, then your daily goal should be hit fairly easy, and offset the inevitable losses by a far greater number.

   I am interested if anyone who plays online, has found a craps table where the stakes are low enough to incorporate this system, but on a smaller scale, like a penny table. Playing 32 cents across instead of 32 dollars.

   Thank you for your time and sorry for the long post. Great videos, please keep them coming!

10. You rolled almost 300 times, of course you’ll eventually lose. House always will win, eventually. This strategy is not designed to play all night long. You also did not account for the come out roll. You need to establish a point. Place bets would be turned off. You obviously don’t know how the strategy works. If your up almost $4k, I thinks it’s safe to walk away a winner. Terrible vid

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