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This episode’s guest is Stanford Wong talking about his book Wong on Dice and the controversial topic of whether craps players can learn to control dice.
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What the Samuel L. Jackson are you guys talkin' 'bout???
Having a minuscule edge on odds bets is one thing, but getting the edge on the pass line is more difficult.
Very informative. Thank you very much.
crap shooting is difficult, and Wong makes good point, practice practice practice is key….so its possible…many details to worry about..even the repetition in a casino and being in home can throw your dice toss off
if you roll a 7 one out seven times vs one out six times thats about a 2% difference
but on a 500 roll experiment that they talked about they rolled 10 less 7s in 500
lets say they were betting $5 with $10 odds on average and only one pass line bet at a time
the 10 less 7s results in 150 less in losses
conversely about 160 more in winnings
so a difference of 310
in 500 rolls lets say bets are resolved 2 out 7 rolls with either a pass line win or seven out
so 142.85 bets are resolved at 15 each for 2142 of bets thru
so the difference is 310/2142 = 14.47%
so is the advantage 2% or 14.47%? can someone please explain
if the table is empty the casino staff usually let people work on their throws without much heat
when theres lots of people and the table is rowdy a dice setter slows down the game and causing people to be irritated so thats more why they get heat
Phil Ivey has a private craps table.
I found the interview troubling. When the hosts asked Wong if it was a good or bad thing that the guy had introduced him to dice control, his first comment was that, well he got a book out of it, even if it wasn't his most profitable. It was the first time I ever questioned Wong's integrity as a promotor of gambling systems. It reminded me a bit of when Jerry Patterson started promoting the TARGET system for Blackjack. Typically Wong has a straightforward position regarding the validity of a proposed advantage play, but here seems to be intentionally stopping short of saying it is not a valid approach. it would seem at the very least, he should add a forward to his dice book that expresses his concerns regarding the validity of the approach.
I got into playing Craps from the Video that Golden Touch put out. For me Dice Control works, I put in 2 years of practice not only with my control shooting but with how I bet. I have won in my sessions anywhere between 100-300, and then I leave. I also keep what I win separate from my betting bankroll. I practice most every day for a set number of rolls. And I never do anything in casino with how I bet unless I try it out at home on my felt.
No one should believe what Wong says, unless he can back it up with solid math. The house's edge at craps is lower than at optimal BJ, and no dice player has ever been barred by the casinos because of the way he plays.