10 thoughts on “Should I play Iron Cross on Crapless Craps Table?”

1. What I would like to know is, are people playing crapless craps in their assless chaps?

2. Interesting, I'm glad you mentioned that the place better would have started to press their bets at some point, that's what most do. I realize that you were wanting to compare the same amount at risk, but I would believe that the iron cross player would have started at table minimum and been much likely not to press.

3. Guy says, "actually been a pretty good roll."

   Me: "Dude jst fkd it up "

   Life: "What do you want from me; dude fkd it up?"

4. Would be nice to keep track on screen the stacks or at least how much each is up or down?

5. The Iron cross player only colored up 705 not 725

6. Playing the iron cross is the same on both craps and Crapless. Crapless craps kills the pass line and come bets. True you can place the horn numbers, but doing so is horrible. You can’t make don’t bets at all. Don’t bets are the best bets in craps. You are suck with placing 6 and 8 as your best bets. Playing Crapless craps threatens the the existence of regular craps. Please don’t play this game.

7. Sad. I think people will play this horrible game. Eventually the original craps games will disappear. High table limits on original craps tables is the telltale sign that the casinos are planning future elimination of original craps tables. Crapless craps makes much more money for the casino than original craps does. So they increase the table minimum bets on original craps to match the the earnings from Crapless craps. Those who can’t afford it will have to play Crapless craps instead. But that’s the wrong thing to do. They should simply not play at all. It won’t take long for the casinos to do away with Crapless craps when they see nobody playing it. Then the limits on original craps will drop to where they used to be. The casinos got rid of all the favorable blackjack single deck games by first raising the table minimum bets. Then the games disappeared completely. You probably never saw a blackjack single deck game that allowed double on any 2 cards, double after splits, surrender, insurance, and dealer standing on all 17s that was dealt more than half way down. I have played those games. They don’t exist today because people played the inferior blackjack games instead. So it’s We the People who are ultimately in control of what games the casinos offer. An empty table loses money for the casino no matter how high the house advantage is.

8. I hate crapless craps!

9. You did an awesome demonstration Jeremy! Thank you Sir!

10. I've never played on a crapless table but it seems like it favors the house a lot by spreading out your bets at lower amounts rather than concentrating on maximizing payouts on fewer numbers. Since most people press their place bets when they hit- it would take forever on a crapless table to build up any one number very far before big red shows up. I could see a strategy of using those outside number wins to feed the traditional inside number place bets, like using the Field to feed place betting. But trying to press with 10 place bets isn't going to see many if any maxed out before big red shows.
    I'd like to see this tested with adding in presses. Say just going to 3 units would likely favor the iron cross player simply because they'd stop investing sooner and be able to pull profit than trying to get any one of ten numbers pressed to a useful wager amount– especially when the BUY is 20 or 25 on a 10 dollar table.
    Here on the east coast we get the most traditional craps tables. Rarely will you see fire bets, ATS, or anything else. It's old school craps round these parts.

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