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Poker Strategy: Should We Call Off with Bottom Set vs Two Players

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CLP Subscriber Squishmytomato calls in with a hand where he flopped bottom set and faced an all-in from two players. He and Bart discuss if he has enough equity to call off.

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Poker Strategy: Should We Call Off with Bottom Set vs Two Players

10 thoughts on “Poker Strategy: Should We Call Off with Bottom Set vs Two Players”

  1. You need to call 700 to win 3000, so you need 23.3% to call here. If we assign V1 a range of TT+ and we give V2 all the sets, all the T7s and 75s and 98s we would have 27.2% which would be a call. He also might have some semi-bluffs like 77, 97s, 87s, 76s. He could also have slowplayed an overpair that he decides to jam on a drawy board or 86s as two pair. Given V1 is on tilt, V2 might be looser than usual, so bottom set should probably be good 23% of the time.

  2. That;s right. Its a call here. Terrible players V1 and V2, especially V2. You give them too much credit! If I have a straigh, I'm calling. If I have 99 I'm calling.I'm not shoving on the flop raise.

  3. curious why you'd say you need 4-1 to set mine vs. AA/KK? I'd think it is much less since they aren't going to be scared by a queen on the flop…or are you talking about remaining effective stack sizes in that comment?

  4. If you believe V2 is a competent player, how does he have T7s in his range UTG+2? Pretty sure you are running into more 88 and 99. Also, why do you raise bottom set on 986r board? I would be flatting my entire range on that runout.

  5. While the video was playing, before I heard the result, I was thinking that this was definitely a call in this game dynamic. If you were up against a solid rock in this spot, you can sometimes fold. A Set, is always an incredibly strong hand, even in spots like these

  6. There was no show down, but the tilting villain one could easily have ak or ace queen, or an over pair. Villain two could easily have 97 suited. I think this is a call all day long. I guess I’m not good enough to lay down A set to a tilted player and a young kid.

  7. I'd consider 10j suited w backdoor flush draw. People will sometimes semi bluff with 2 overs and open ender mainly to get you to fold a good hand so he can isolate the guy on tilt w a shorter stack to make his equity much higher heads up w the tilty guy

  9. The thing is, even when we make the wrong play, we will still win sometimes. But I have to agree with Bart, that we cant expect to good here often enough to justify the call. 1 guy making a crazy bluff with a draw and another guy calling him with nothing, thats an outlier, tilting or not.

  10. Dude… There is at least a poker ghost if not a god. Look between the cards on the right and the CLP symbol on the top left. bad is cray…

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