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In this hand we flop and OESD on a monotone flop and call a bet. We turn the straight and face a very large turn and river bet from the villain. What would you do?
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your post-mortem seems okay except for the fact that you have trouble believing Btn vs BB had trouble taking you for 3 streets with a flush.(but post flop i think everything is fine) When looking at his sizing given a good player we need to now look at our own play and wonder if he is exploiting something in our game…. the call pre is meh. In a full ring game when a player we respect is getting position when we have it most of the night(meh)…
Lets talk about if we had 9d8d. Which is 3b or call pre, for me(35/65). The way id play that hand. Is check call. Maybe lead turn once we hit. Or if we missed turn. Plan on over betting like 1.5x any spade river. You need to be thinking more than just one street. And a good player is going to remember our OVBet Bluff(if we get called)and we need to remember to use that in exploitive manners in bigger pots.
Yeah I was thinking that another hand he could have would be a low flush. He would be afraid of another spade coming and would barrel on that. Played it fine other than calling preflop though.
OK maybe I am just not sophisticated enough but maybe FOLD to a five bet pre when you hold 89off (sure he is opening wide but he probably still beating you) and their is still another player behind and it was pretty easy I thought to figure out at least by the turn he was trying to protect a weak flush by getting a flush draw or over pair to fold. As played the hand ran out perfect for the villiian because it kept hero in a hand he should have folded.
Long-term would it be more profitable to play the river as a bet-fold or as a check-call? In this spot it seems like with a bet-fold you get to determine your own price (within reason), and because it's so polarizing you'll pretty much never get raised by a worse hand.
Preflop is a pretty big mistake already. Dont get involved out of position, unless its justified by price, hand strength or a very weak opponent, and here none of that was the case. So just fold and wait for the button to come to you. Basic preflop discipline including positional awareness really is a key to success in poker.
As played I also think, the flop is a fold. The Hero even say himself, he is drawing to a bluff catcher, and that kind of say it all. We dont HAVE to continue every single time, we catch some kind of draw. The quality of our draw, the size of the bet, we are facing, and our position all matter to our decision.
The turn card kind of doomed Hero. After this I dont blame him for calling down, but thats exactly why, preflop is a fold, and the flop is also a fold.
I assume Villain had JsTs?
hand kinda played itself if you ask me. villain just had your number…and/or wanted to make sure you paid for drawing..does sound like that guy is a good player. great upload Bart, thanks! 🙂
Pre-flop is really bad. Flop is questionable…..
As played, I am interested about the river action:
I don't understand why are we calling the river bet against a good player?
With AsXx & JJ-KK he checks behind.
We only beat:
1) Sets that are value betting because he puts us exactly on AsXx.
2) An extremely rare scenario when a good player runs 3-street bluff on a monotone board with pot-size bets, with absolutely total air 🙂
We lose to all non-nuts flushes that could easily take this line against a player with loose calling tendencies.
He bets 350$ into a 450$ pot.
I don't think that we are good 1/4 times.
The river helps us since AsXx doesn't need to bluff any more.
We should FOLD.
MONEHH
when people have strong hand they bet small for value to entice and bet big when have junk.